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2016. we're going to build a wall and mexico is going to pay for it. those are words and he knew and his advisors knew he was going to have to deliver on for the base at some point. >> right. steve, of course we don't want to -- old technologies work, right? he talks about a wheel and a wall. he's not talking about anti-tunnelling technology when he talks like that. >> no. that's not true. >> spend money on that. don't spend money on a wall that's not needed. >> he's saying it's both and it's all technology. walls do work obviously? we wouldn't construct walls if they didn't. but it's walls pl...

Is also beyond symbolism here. we saw what happened with the migrant caravan. so many predictions and hysteria and people in the democratic party were completely false. i feel very badly for so many of those migrants who were promised that could not be delivered to them. they were lied to by people who probably took their money and imperiled their safety and security but this president is willing to work across the aisle with leader schumer and we guess speaker pelosi. she has a critical decision to make. she doesn't have the votes necessarily for speaker. it has been tough for her to get them...