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Angela merkel's cell phone being tapped, the president doesn't really answer that question. he doesn't say i know all of these things. i guess partly because he doesn't want to say he knew it if he knew it. >> he takes out a bit of a wandering answer. understandably so in some cases. this stuff is very sensitive and there's some stuff the president doesn't want to say publicly and sometime he hurts himself by keeping it private. i'll give you a moment for comparison. remember when george w. bush look out from air force one during katrina? president bush did not land that plane because at that ...

>> so, susan, we had romney also releasing an ad hitting perry on that comment. is immigration an issue that could turn the gop primary and if it is, who stands to benefit? >> this is rick perry's biggest single problem. the biggest problem isn't that he gave that wandering answer when he was asked about pakistan and the debate. it's that he was at odds with his republican base and his core voters on the issue of immigration. while he's tried to walk back the comment he said where if you had a different view, you didn't have a heart, the fact is he hasn't walked back from the position he took,...