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Here is one of them, an air traffic controller. >> it is terrifying. i don't have a plan b. i have my savings account. after that, i have no idea what we are going to do. >> does any of this help him? >> no. and i don't want government to be shutdown. i don't know a single one of my colleagues that wants government to be shutdown. but i do want border security. and i do think that it's not a principle stand -- let me put it a different way. speaker pelosi is a very talented person and she is very smart. and i think she knows in her heart that it is impossible to seal a 1,900 mile border withou...

Situation room because it's a secure facility. they will sit down and talk and try to hash this out. if the press conference that was just held by nancy pelosi and chuck schumer is any indication, they don't want to talk about border security until there is some kind of agreement to reopen the government. listen to what chuck schumer said a short time ago. >> the president needs to come to his senses and end the shutdown now. i don't think he persuaded a soul with his talk last night. it was the same old, same old. mistruths. divisiveness. didn't have the effect that he had hoped. >> that is c...

But he will not capitulate. >> that's the problem we face. the vast majority of the american want border security and understands when these people try to break our laws there has to be consequences to those laws. if there are no consequences, which is what the radical left espouses, then we'll continue to give this magnet to those people that cross the border illegally. >> sandra: what sense do you get the president will get it done. >> i wouldn't bet against him. i've worked with him for two years now. look at the economy. he has done so many great things that it would be dumb to bet against...

Doing border security. a strong argument. i reject the positions that democrats are not interested in border security. they are. there's a compromise to be had and the so-called senators are real senators. i think most people want to have border security probably build a wall and have a pathway to citizenship for the daca residents. >> i agree with that. >> somewhere there's a compromise that we should do and we really need to get the government open, pay federal workers, get a compromise and enhance border security. we'll all be better off with a compromise. >> trace: great stuff. have to go....

Secretary. he said that's not something that president trump believes he could do. >> trace: it is up for debate. jeff mason, good to see you. thank you. >> you too. >> trace: and updating fox's top story. the show down over the partial government shutdown. lawmakers meeting with president trump began as the shut down hits the two week mark. kristina partsinevelos live on capitol hill. >> lawmakers are working very hard to evercome this shut down impass. if anything, a lot of gop members are struggling to focus on what the president wants funding the wall and to address the problems with the g...