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I want to make sure we nominate somebody that beats barack obama. >> i agree with what you said when you said that about a month ago, governor, but there's nobody else getting in, it looks like. so they're basically looking at, do i want coffee or tea right now, and they can't decide which one. is it that they don't want either one? is it they don't want perry -- it looks like right now. they don't want cain, he's untested, a business guy with no political background, and they don't think romney's a true conservative, it seems to me. how else can you explain why they wouldn't pick romney? why ...

Like. so they're basically looking at, do i want coffee or tea right now, and they can't decide which one. is it that they don't want either one? they don't want perry, it looks like right now. they don't want cain, he's untested, a business guy with no political background, and they don't think romney's a true conservative, it seems to me. how else can it seem they can't pick romney? why wouldn't you pick a guy you've been watching for seven or eight years now, if you like him? >> the fact of the matter is, rick perry's been the governor of the second biggest state in the country for quite a ...