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Unintended consequences which is why we should generally aim before we shoot. we have a country coalition. we will slowly push back isil out of iraq. i'm confident that will happen. >> bill recently spoke with david who advised president obama on foreign policy. >> do you have any idea why president obama went against his generals and national security people all of whom on the record said we told him not to withdraw u.s. troops? >> i think it is pretty obvious because he came to office as the anti-iraq war candidate. >> so it was a political play? i don't think very few americans would have o...

The united states senate. voted consistently for full funding for occupation in iraq. when he later ran as being an anti-iraq war candidate. he promised before he received the democratic nomination that he would join the filibuster, immunity from the telecom companies under the bush administration. as soon as he received the nomination, he not only didn't join the filibuster, he voted for that immunity. who else in the country gets congress to grant them retroactive immunity for felonious contract opinion that's the kind of being, the basis of it is the corrupting influence of money. >> you to...

Look, the white house knew they would have to take the step because of that. as you said, not secure prize we were coming to this point for some time in terms of pulling off the band aid, the timing is interesting. the white house saw a window after the death of gaddafi, where they could capitalize on this and make it part of broader argument about the foreign policy successes to package it this way. this is a man who burst in politics as the anti-iraq war candidate. that is the reason he came to prominence in the first place. a neat bookend for his base to say i ended that war. >> chris: let'...

Legitimate end the war candidate, i don't want to say an anti-war candidate in the 2012 presidential primaries? >> you're zeroing in on a very important question. it's one of the things i stay awake late at night worrying about. before we even get to 2012, if you look at some of the republicans that are going to be coming in 2010 -- >> they're not very supportive of the war. >> one, many characterize afghanistan as obama's war. two, they're worried about out of control spending and afghanistan seems to be a line item in their mind that can be cut way back. and three, when president bush was ma...

No. pennsylvania governor ed rendell, former democratic party chairman, says he thinks the president could face a democratic challenger in 2012 on this issue if he can't get enough of the troops out in time. >> if the troop withdrawal begins in 2011, if there's some signs that we're trying to get out of there -- and i heard, i think you, talking about, if there are only 3,000 american troops, we still have a presence. but if we start to begin to reduce our presence, i think that's probably enough to keep any war candidate out of the race. >> anti-war challenge to a democratic president? >> i t...