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Particularly in 2003, but the role he played and the influence he had over decades, it's hard to match in american history. >> well, i think that's true, and it's for both good and potentially not so good, as you've all indicated. there are two sides to this guy who actually was a titan and was a giant. he was the youngest ever chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, appointed by president george h.w. bush in '89, and he was the first african-american, the first black official officer to become and to hold that high, high office, and then of course, as you know, he went on to hold higher office...

Election systems could lead to blood shed. >> so cawthorn, let's reiterate is not just some guy. is he a, yes, embarrassing creepy tree punching but sitting member of congress. >> and since then, most of the evening msnbc opinion shows haven't even mentioned the war. >> meanwhile the g.o.p. led assault on our democracy through the passage of voter suppression measures marches on. >> two trump organization executives now set to testify before a manhattan grand jury this week. >> if you are a red state, you not only have no protection from covid, your schools are getting sued they can't have mas...

Leading shows by a freshman republican congressman. since then, several of those evening shows on that network haven't mentioned the war at all. >> martha: it's interesting. because it is an issue that you saw some widespread push-back from reporters, even reporters that have been generally more positive to president biden. so there's no doubt that the white house sensed this was a problematic issue for them across the board when their friendly reporters are starting to press them. >> i think journalists left and right did a very aggressive job covering the disaster that the exit turned out to...

President to move on from this story or will they keep pressing? howie kurtz host of "media buzz" is here. good to have you here today. >> thanks. >> martha: here's ben sasse from nebraska. he say biden wants to talk about anything by afghanistan. americans that are highing from the taliban don't give a damn and news cycles, long weekends and polling. they want out. so will that sentiment continue to nudge the media to cover this story or not? >> it's been like flip ago light switch. just this hour, fox carried tony blinken's presser. the other cable networks news networks did not take it. i w...

>> you heard in the cold open the gentleman said this was like a war zone. i heard you yesterday say it was like war zones you have been in during your war coverage. that stuck with me. as someone who has been to war zones elaborate on that. >> that is where the front of that apartment building looks like with the balconies hanging off. if you've been to places like chechnya which was decimated by russian airpower or have seen earthquakes like what happened in haiti, what was once a normal apartment building in the span of seconds become totally destroyed and furniture hanging out of buildings...