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Rationing care. it is a grim thought. what does that look like when hospitals have to ration care? >> we that's a worst nightmare for any medical provider. essentially, you breakdown patients into three categories. patients who can get up and walk around and are awaken alerts and say, hey, you need to alert leave the hospital or the medical facility because you are not that bad off. there is those that are pulse-less or may not be breathing well, or might be having massive bleeding. those patients unfortunately you can use those extraordinary measures that you would not normally to save them a...

Vladimir— medieval siege. and this is clearly vladimir putin's tactic, not least because — vladimir putin's tactic, not least because the war doesn't appear to be going _ because the war doesn't appear to be going the _ because the war doesn't appear to be going the way that he wanted it to and the _ going the way that he wanted it to and the way he had envisaged it going _ and the way he had envisaged it going in— and the way he had envisaged it going in those opening may be 24, 48 hours _ going in those opening may be 24,48 hours so— going in those opening may be 24,48 hours. so now ...

Particular scene was a very striking moment of the beauty of an aspect of civilian and peaceful life suddenly becoming the site again of more horror and more destruction. there is absolutely _ horror and more destruction. there is absolutely no _ horror and more destruction. there is absolutely no facet _ horror and more destruction. there is absolutely no facet of _ horror and more destruction. there is absolutely no facet of life - horror and more destruction. there is absolutely no facet of life in - is absolutely no facet of life in ukraine that has not been touched by this war. and it is ...

Be decided for them by those men in the kremlin, and it's -- and they have nothing to do with it. so whether or not they support this war doesn't really matter unless something changes and millions of people come into the streets and take over government buildings, but i mean, you can never discount anything. it's russia. anything could happen. but i wouldn't count on it. >> and julia, is it not central to our sort of foreign policy interests that at least people know the truth of the numbers of russians who have died fighting this war and why that's the case? or is that -- would you put that ...

And beyond. we're not prepared to do that. the question is what can you do then. first of all, you have to make sure that the war doesn't widen. it's very, very important that it does not become an even bigger war with even greater tragedy, which is why reinforcing nato is to important. secondly is to increase the political isolation and economic pressure on russia to change course. but, again, we're not going to be able to solve this in the next week or two short of our direct military intervention, which i'm afraid the president has made clear he's not willing to do, nor is anyone in nato pr...