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2016. so why do they feel so passionately about him? joining us now is alex morris, she's a senior writer for rolling stone, and she recently wrote a piece titled false idol, why the christian right worships donald trump. great to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> your article was so illumina illuminating. it really helped me understand why evangelicals are all in on donald trump, but before we get to that, i want to tell everybody where you come from. you are from an evangelical family. >> absolutely, yeah. >> and tell us a little bit about your history and your family's history. the...

Identifies proudly as a christian. the daughter of an ordained southern baptist minister. if this is the way you practice or model religiousness i'm baffled but it is emblematic of the tenor of the political debate. >> do you think had the formatteder vice president not had a stutter and had that not been something he dealt with she would have even said, sorry? >> no. i'm not sure she would have. she was waging political war fair as it's done today. i feel empathy in america is an endangered emotion. >> yeah. whether you are left, right, center. like, everyone in this country has somehow been ...

Possible to measure the level of anxiety, perhaps fear, within the small circle of people around the president about the fact that the state department, which has been thoroughly hollowed out over the past two years and the pentagon where once you drop down from the joint chiefs, i mean, there are professional people, military people who are anxious to have the story told about what's going on in materials of policies being obstructed, altered or changed? is it possible to level the anxiety of fear within the white house staff that this is all going to pop out eventually? >> yeah, look, i thin...

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>> he said that hackers would be trying to frame the u.s. government. but again, the u.s. intelligence committee, the fbi seems confident. they are not saying they think kit be anyone else. >> yeah, again, the beauty of act tifz medications says they are spin whatever story they would like to try to it in to whatever accusations might be out there. just to muddy the waters. but it's an excellent point. the russians have understand for a number of years now, since 2007, that they need -- conventional war fair is one thing. nuclear weapon no one wants to use them. they need an alternative that c...