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Updated. you think they are or will be giving ukraine the targeting information so we can up the ukrainian's, kill as many russians as possible? >> i think it's moral and ethical, imperative for the united states to provide that tactical intelligence. i can tell you from my own experience serving in war zones in the middle east and south asia it is critical for the war fighter to have that locational information and it's important to know where russians plan to attack so ukrainians can get off the x. the distinction, though, the administration has drawn they won't provide targets inside russia...

Last two wars. i have a lot more faith is ukraine, nato allies in the area. i have a lot more faith in them to negotiate a peaceful end to this than our own government. that maybe the most unpatriotic thing i have ever said on television. it's not because i don't love this country. i have faith in every single war fighter that may put our our uniform and end up in conflict. i don't have any faith in our political leaders right now. you talk about members of congress who understand this we don't have members of congress who understand guam can't flip over like a floating table top. we don't hav...

How special is someone like a colin powell, especially in this day and age? >> i think people in his model are increasingly rare in our society today. we need more leaders like general powell who canries above partisanship and enjoy the start the stature and a solid reputation among democrats and republicans whose word is valued by people of both parties. he's going to be greatly missed. he it's us a lot about the limits of warfare, for example, as a war fighter. he taught us the pottery barn rule always have a plan when you go in. these are things that i've repeated myself numerous teams. muc...

There to unpack. those are guys i know personally. but the main theme of this second half of our interview is the rules of engagement didn't support us. they worked against us. they didn't allow us to defend ourselves. you think politicians at least today owe the war fighter, the responsibility of understanding where they are coming from and maybe spending more time listening and pressuring the administration to fight a war in a way to win it. katie: a lot of times we hear about endless wars and being in afghanistan for 20 years. but very seldom is the question asked why were we there for so l...

These refugees from afghanistan are not vaccinated. >> the american warrior is the best equipped, best trained war fighter anywhere. >> um-huh. >> we need to make sure this doesn't demoralize that whole class of people that raised their hand and swear to give their life in defense of the republic. i'm really concerned how demoralizing this has been and we need to remind them every chance we get that their sacrifice was not for not. that they were defending the principles we stand for and that the flag, you know, is going to fly forever and that we can be trusted as an ally. brian: our best hop...