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Let me finish tonight with this fate on the right. could it be that the republican party's about to have what the democrats had back in' 68 and '72, a battle to the death over a war? i well remember, and many of you do, too, what happened when the democrats ran into a historic conflict over the long, bloody vietnam war. in 1968 they stuck with the war policy of lyndon johnson running his vice president for commander in chief. hubert humphrey could never unite the tempt party on that basis. in 1972 the democrats ran the k country's leading anti-war figure, senator george mcgovern for president....

Serious about america's -- 20 year ago colin powell said the key to the post cold war war is that the world looks around at america and sees a sign on the door, super power lives here and thinks we shouldn't mess with these guys. i think under clinton and bush and the first couple of years with obama with the surge a certain sense that, yeah, whatever the problems that is the case. i really do think americans sense that the rest of the world doesn't see that sign on the door any more and that that is dangerous. >> tuned out which could be worse. >> yeah. the headlines were really bad for the g...

Managed this badly and that the process was this dysfunctional, then what was he, why did he stay on? toward the end of the bush years, i knew from talking to him that he was dying to leave. he stayed on very reluctantly. it's not surprising he was having unpleasant experience and what he describes in the book suggests why it became more unpleasant. something's lost there. >> i want to be clear. >> doesn't make it less true however. >> i'm not questioning the veracity and gates has every right to speak his mind about war policy and what he thinks of the president. the business about the privat...

Expressed skepticism and doubt about his own war policy. that's what i want. i have friends and relatives in the military. i want my commander-in-chief to have a lot of skepticism and doubt about what's going on in a war instead of just blindly and pig headedly sending more soldiers into combat. >> did i hear you nodding, gloria? >> yeah, i do agree with paul. i think it's probably better, but probably not as marketable if you wait until after a president is out of office. but in reading what i've head of this book, and again, i obviously haven't read the whole thing, but i read excerpts of it...

They fight back in the media, how do they respond? >> this is a devastating book for precisely the reasons you said. this brings afghanistan back into the news, it raises questions about his commitment to his own war policy and it comes from bob gates has a reputation here inside the beltway as a very classy guy, not one who is self aggrandizing. the administration has to be very careful here because of gates reputation, the president himself gave bob gates a medal of freedom not to try to demonize him or discredit the messenger as it pushes back inevitably against what is in the book. jon: he...