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Penalty for the people who deliberately destroy the constitution and rationalize and say, we have to do it for security. well, you know what franklin said about that, you end up losing your security and your freedoms too. so i think we've embarked on a dangerous course. the american people are with us on this, it's totally out of control, and i would say if you're confused about what we should do, just read the constitution. what's wrong with that? if you don't like it, get people to repeal it and change the constitution, but not just to deny it. we go to war without a declaration. we totally ...

But since world war ii we have gone to war without a declaration. and for that reason we essentially have not won one of those wars that has added a lot of tragedy. just in these past ten years these wars we are fighting in the middle east over 8500 americans have died. 44,000 have come back with serious injuries and am amputations and all kinds of problems. hundreds of thousands looking for help because of post-traumatic stress syndrome. at the same time, economically it's been very damaging. it has added $4 trillion to our national debt. that is what you are inheriting. this is the reason wh...

Conservative. i think with romney. he's moderate on the issues. i would think the economic conservatives that supported the governor may welcome my direction. martha: in terms of kiercheds your libertarian philosophy and the things you are sort of continuing to speak out strongly about with regard to helping flood victims, for example, along the mississippi river, and you also profess over the weekend that you think the presidency is a limited role. and a person doesn't have to be overly prepared for it because it shoulden be as expansive as it is now. weigh in on some of this. >> i have a lot...

2012. nothing passes. nothing gets done unless the house says it does. and that seems to me, ron paul, like an opportunity. if you ask me, do you want republicans to take over the house or the senate, i'd say, let them take over the house because you can't spend a dime unless the house says, can you spend a dime. >> that's the way it's supposed to be. that's not the way it happens. congress for decades now have given up their prerogatives to the executive branch. we've had republicans who loved the strong executives. still today, the executive can go to war without a declaration, the federal r...