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I'm not al e loan in the viewpoints. in fact, the vast majority of asian americans share this viewpoint, and they support affirmative action, and this is part of the democratic process. >> i want to look back at some of the numbers in california where ward was the architect of the affirmative action policies, and the banning thereof. if you look at the california i minority population here on the left-hand column, and it is 6.6%, and 38.2%, and then 13.9%. and when you look at that, ward, it is stark. look at that out of 38.2, only 14.1% admitted at uc berkeley, and how do you explain the numb...

That in california ther. there is a proposed constitutional amendment that has been dropped that would put this before the voters. yes, i always support the right of the people to make that decision. >> okay. janelle, i want to make some of the trends, because you see them stark, and berkeley admissions where ward connerley knows so we well, and you can look at the admission rates for african-americans just diving after the affirmative action was banned. and michigan enrollment before and after in terms of the african-american enrollment here 7.1%, and then after affirmative action was no long...

Studies janelle wong. when we look at yesterday, ward, doesn't measures like this like the one in california that wants to allow affirmative action? >> well, i think that the decision helps everyone, because it says that this is one that the people can decide if they choose to do so. the complaint that had been filed by any means necessary said that the people should not have the right to make that decision, and this is of course, changes that, allows people to do that. >> right. you are in california, and if it is then -- >> yes. >> -- then allowed based on the vote, will you support it, beca...