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Who have also been held to account. as a matter of fact, three of those s.e.a.l.s were with chief gallagher going through this administrative review process to see if they could keep their trident pin. so now those three cases are kind of thrown up in the air because the president has weighed in and said that gallagher can keep his pin. so now the navy is left to figure out what they're going to do with these other three? >> so what's the deal with the pin? i keep hearing about the trident. help us unpack for the american people. it sounds trite. it obviously is not. tell us why. >> no, it's n...

Justice. there were other s.e.a.l.s, as the lawyer just said who also were posed in that picture and who have also been held to account. as a matter of fact, three of those s.e.a.l.s were with chief gallagher going through this administrative review process to see if they could keep their trident pin. so now those three cases are kind of thrown up in the air because the president has weighed in and said that gallagher can keep his pin. so now the navy is left to figure out what they're going to do with these other three? >> so what's the deal with the pin? i keep hearing about the trident. hel...

Military process. you have spencer saying, you know, we're going to support the process but understanding where he works, and understanding what's happening, maybe trying to do an end around at the same time, what does that do throughout the system? >> it erodes trust and confidence in what should be a very straightforward impartial system of determining what an individual's qualifications are to serve in the military. so now you're going to have other seals wondering if they're decisions about their tridents are going to be determined fairly and in other warfare communities, the other thing i...