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Candidates are in the race. you and i talk about this all the time. but i think that what joe biden and his campaign are saying is yes, there needs to be another strategy outside of iowa in order for us to win. this is a delegate game. >> sandra: he is your party's best chance? >> look at the polls alone. several candidates in a head-to-head beat donald trump. that will be up for the voters to decide. whoever has the best ideas for them is who will be our nominee. >> sandra: former speaker of the house newt gingrich penned a peace saying dem disaster of 1972 and that piece he writes 2020 will ...

Like after all he's been through, at least he ought to get the presidency. >> martha: it sounds like the hillary clinton posture. >> it does. out of the get the terribly compelling rationale for running and the thing that we have to be donald trump, that by itself is the main rationale for his candidacy in the main reason people seem to support them is that they think they -- he's kind of a main street guy with a touch for the working class and he could rest back some states trump was able to win in beating hillary clinton. there's a case to be made but i don't know whether he can take the tra...