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Where he would go on a real specific policy level. >> sure. >> he has in some ways proven to be a praguetist and at the same time in this election season we're seeing him adopt more fiery rhetoric, the fairness argument is very much part of his platform. i wonder what you make of that sort of split between the bill clinton sort of centrist democrats and the warren style, new school, old-style democrats. >> well, bill clinton is a southerner. he is used to the kind of preachy politics that go over so well in a hall like that. he's very informative. barack obama is a different guy. he inspires a...