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Abu ghraib in which they are in orange jumpsuits. i think they were trying to make themselves look better in this case. >> we know how brutal the taliban are, especially the haqqani network. he was being held by the haqqani network. they are brutal. there's no doubt about that. what do they mean he wanted him to go home with, quote, good memories? >> well, i think part of it is this warrior ethic. look, you killed us, meaning americans, and we kill americans and that's part of the war but on a human-to-human level, we're still people and we're going to treat humans the way we want to be treate...

You have the warrior ethic that says if you show weakness, you're not strong. that plays against this. we have to fix our army and get it focused back on things that we can achieve victory on. settling the afghan people to push towards a government is not in our best interest to do. >> and captain, the other point here is should we be hitting a limit on the number of times that people are sent back into the conflict zones? is that part of the problem here as well? >> it's definitely part of the problem. but i think that the army is doing the best they can with a force that's totally strapped. ...