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Cyberattacks, but we need to think of a long-term strategy, and that involves a global discussion of bright lines so that we can bring that force to bear against russia when they act inappropriately. >> let me ask you about the short term because you can read putin's behavior like a book. you know how he operates. i think to your point, there was a quote in "the new york times" from a cybersecurity expert saying, when you're a thug, the first thing you do is test that red line, and so what is going to get vladimir putin's attention? >> i've said it before. vladimir putin understands power and ...

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Breadth of the challenge being posed by the hackers, and i guess by extension the challenge facing the biden administration. >> good morning, chris. here's how devilishly complicated this is. this attempted hack on the rnc may not cross any red lines. if it was just espionage by a russian intelligence agency to gather information, that's the kind of thing the united states does around the world every day. that's in one bucket, we live with those kind of attacks. and even solar wind was essentially an espionage attack, a massive one. but it wasn't akin to the ransomware attacks. these are attac...

Had been hanging around. we don't have that this time, but we do have significant rainfall. last week it rained every single day. so in the event we get a big rain event here, we do have problem areas that we're going to be prepared to pump that water out. our concern would be that people get in their cars, but we're not facing a hurricane right now coming over our city. so people may be out driving around. they see standing water, the risk is they drive into it, which can be incredibly dangerous. >> warnings out there to folks. jacksonville mayor lenny curry, good luck to you guys and thank y...

Vulnerable than anybody in cyberspace. now what experts are saying is this behavior has gone unpunished for years and it's reached a tipping point where it's massive, where it's affecting critical infrastructure, like gas pipelines, meat processors. now we've seen the biggest ransomware attack that appears to have come from russia and the biden administration is confronting exactly what to do about it and there are no easy answers. >> let's talk about what we've tried, sanctions. so what are some of the harsher options available to send a clear message the u.s. is not going to tolerate russia ...