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Let's talk about that man. nbc news is reporting john bolton the former national security adviser now out of a job, that john bolton, knew it was a bad idea even before trump called the new president of ukraine. this report reads in part, quote, three officials said bolton argued against trump calling ukrainian president zelensky on july 25 because he was concerned the president wasn't coordinating with advisers on what to say and might air personal grievances. now there is growing and aunls and understandable fear bolton and his allies out in the world talking might inflict damage on this pre...

National security adviser john bolton, made one of his first appearances since he was fired a few weeks ago. you have new information regarding what he said about the president's phone call with the ukranian president. what do you know? >> what my colleagues learned from current and former senior administration officials is that john bolton was against president trump placing this phone call to president zelensky in july, and the reason these officials said to us was that there was concern on behalf of bolton that he wasn't coordinating what he would say with advisers and that he might run the...

Situation, and that is the potential for collusion with russia. this is all after the campaign, and if michael flynn knows everything there is no know, and tells everything there is to tell, if the campaign still wasn't coordinating or colluding with the russians, and there's no evidence yet that they were, then the political side of this is eventually going to fizzle away. that doesn't mean michael flynn isn't going to have a felony and paul manafort and so forth aren't going to have a trail of felonies for lying to the fbi. but so far with respect to anything other than manafort's distant fi...

Situation, that is the potential for collusion with russia. this is all after the campaign, and if michael flynn knows everything there is no know, and tells everything there is to tell, if the campaign still wasn't coordinating or colluding with the russians, and there's no evidence that they were, then the political side of this is eventually going to fizzle away. that doesn't mean michael flynn isn't going to have a felony and paul manafort and so forth aren't going to have a trail of felonies for lying to the fbi. but so far with respect to anything other than manafort's distant financial ...

There are a lot of unanswered questions here. and that seems to be where the story is headed now. >> there are a lot of unanswered questions. but one of the things happening here is this was a signal by robert mueller to say to some of the four or five other people they are trying to get to potentially flip on trump and to cooperate, to do the same thing to say, listen, this is how it is going to work. either you play nice with us or you don't and will be in paul manafort's position. >> of those questions, it is significant. the question of papadopoulos and his cooperation is the critical poin...