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Closer to freedom caucus. i recognize you're not going to get that through both houses of congress. there has to be a replacement they have to make it through reconciliation. they're in a real bind here. wasn't going look beautiful. they were going to have that fight. i think my question was whether trump thoughts its was his fight. today he signal ds its his fight. he says i might go after you guys. people say i'm not sure he's serious about that. he loves going after fellow republicans. we've seen that happen for the past few years. >> he was joking, i think. >> i think also some of these fr...

There was collusion at some level, passable at least, between the trump people and the guy helping him win the election over in moscow. to me that's the big story, or it's not? >> the fact is, general flynn doesn't matter. what matters is the president. and why has he had this attitude through the campaign and his president to have this remarkable deference to russia? i would say i think the cause and effect is the reverse in terms of leaks. i think the fact that the president wasn't going to act prompted people to be willing to leak. now he's mad at the leaks because it forced him to act, but...

3:15 today, officials said they have not. point being, we don't know if he's taken even the steps he announced. >> even the inadequate steps he claimed he was going to do. no, we'll get those filings at the same time we get his tax returns, i think. >> what about the idea of the peaceful transfer of power, the observance of it? i heard people say look, if hillary clinton can go, anyone can go. of anyone that would find it difficult to be there. >> all i know is when i watch that speech, which was the meanest most low-down insulting inaugural address in american history, deeply divisive and off...

Constituents were happy i wasn't going. i was hearing from right wingers all over the country. after the speech nobody was complaining anymore. people understood. these are abnormal times. in normal times people go to each other's inauguration regardless of political party. the problems with donald trump go way beyond partisanship. the man acts as though he's completely oblivious to the constitution, to the rule of law and he -- there's an erratic and deranged quality to the things he says and does. this is a very scary moment for the american republic. >> what are you going to do about that a...

Authority and influence we had back in '03 when we took down sadham hussein. >> now, he attacks or makes the statement that former secretary rice was on the wrong side of all of these issues. but, cynthia, wasn't going into iraq at all on the wrong side of the issue for him? >> devastatingly wrong. you know u i stand in awe of dick cheney. and i don't mean that in an admiring way. he's a man with no shame. he's a man with no conscious who, even today, ten years later, says everybody else was wrong and he was right. and given the tremendous amount of influence he had in the white house, he was ...