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Engaged too much in his personal demonization. man, that guy lives on that bs. >> i guess i want to nail down when he lost you. for me when he came down the stairs and called all mexicans rapists and murders and talked about megyn kelly -- i was never available to him as a reporter who worked for the bush family. why were you even available to him to begin with? >> that's a good question. i supported rand paul in the primary. once won the general i supported him because i didn't like hillary. i didn't like trump but he wasn't hillary. when he got elected i tried to do the good trump/bad trump ...

Wasn't hillary. look, he lost me officially at helsinki over a year ago when he stood in front of the american people and said i stand with that guy putin instead of my own people. john, this is a -- i feel like we're living in alice and wonderland. every day he lies to the american people. you can't believe a word that coming out of his mouth. john, we've never had that in a president. and again, republicans generally -- that piece i wrote in "the new york times" yesterday, most republicans agree with me. most of my former colleagues up on capitol hill agree with every single word i said. the...

Middle america. i don't get it, the democrats have tried to lurch to the left before. history is there for us all to read. they tried it with walter mondale running on higher taxes, tried it with mike dukakis. absolutely filleted at the polls in both of thoseth elections. this is not a winner in an electoral college of national election. can they come back from this? >> absolutely. if you look historically in the most recent election, the democrats do in the primary tend to go to the left because of their base and in the general become more to the center and i think this will happen. i want to...

Backbone of the democratic party. it happens to be one of the things that was almost quote for quote from my campaign and i think that if that can actually be transferred into very specific policy prescriptions, then the democrats will continue to see victories like we saw. >> martha: did the clintons have your back jehmu when you ran for dnc chair? because have you given a lot to the clintons. were they there for you? >> when i ran for dnc chair, hillary clinton was still dealing with her loss. and i certainly did not seek out her endoes doorsment. i didn't seek out the endorsement from anyon...

Appears to be his instincts to tweet and have chaos around him all the time. >> all right. now what do you guys think? eliana, every president has a reset moment. this reset moment is coming awfully early. >> it is. i disagree with what corey lewandowski said, who by the way is appearing at a fund-raiser august 3rd for a republican ohio gubernatorial candidate. >> now we know the motivation there. >> despite his claim he has no business interest in this. but people voted for trump because they supported his agenda and let trump be trump. they voted for trump because he wasn't hillary for many ...