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Kicking up to 25% so let's bring in the director of the center of the hudson institute and fox news contributor and economic advisor robert wolf, welcome to both of you. i want to quickly start by asking you to characterize the last couple days, the progress that was made wasn't made. >> certainly sounds hopeful but the optimism doesn't show anything factual yet. it is great that we continue to have conversations, 30 days coming around the corner. i'm not supportive of the regime, we are -- our focus should be on intellectual property and i'm not sure how it gets resolved in coming days but if...

Time and now the president of the united states is going to come anywhere close to the truth when he's forced to talk about it. >> the prosecutors are looking to see whether president trump tried to tamp down these stories and whether that violated campaign flgs laws, this quote from rudy giuliani -- he's saying how to make the payment, he's not saying don't make it, don't pay this, he's saying how to make the payment. we don't know why the payment wasn't made, but from what rudy giuliani is saying, is that the president gave the go ahead for this payment to be made. that is essentially what t...

>> right. >> and you have emphatically denied it was you. >> i can do that again right here. >> please, go right ahead. >> it was not me. the statement that i wanted my press secretary to put out, she was unwilling to put out because it was something, no, but she didn't want to do that one. we went with absolutely no. >> you left the word that started with f off. is that what happened? >> exactly right. >> good to know. why did you take the stand you did in the way you handled information from the russians in your campaign? >> it's just a bad look, and i think that it's a slippery slope. if yo...

>> i was surprised that that commitment wasn't made. my understanding is the nuance there is what if they already have that information? and by that i mean in my case, the information that i think was out there against my then opponent was stuff that you could find on a public database. if you can find something on a public database, somebody didn't pay their mortgage, a dui, whatever the case may be, that's fair game. but i think if you're going to -- in the case where like the podesta e-mail, if you're going to have a foreign entity go and crack open a political operation's e-mail system, th...

Put out. i want to go back a little bit because with regard to lisa page and the fact that she says in these text messages -- let's put up what she says. she is referring to the fact that loretta lynch has said at this point that she is going to step aside, that no politically appointed official is going to make judgment on the hillary clinton situation, she's going to let the fbi do it and that's all we know comey came forward and made his announcement. she says about that, she says this. it's a real profiling -- she knows no charges will be brought. here's an exchange with james comey and co...