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Objective. >> there were a number of media outlets. why did you not ask to provide a statement correcting that these misstatements that you had recorded? >> that didn't seem to be the material part of the inquiry. >> material part. the truth wasn't material? now, look, you'll say hey, look, in politics, they all lie. that's not true. but you can feel that way. i understand why you would. but just know if you or anyone decides to still put stock in trump's sludge, you now know you are buying a bunch of lies, designed to destroy confidence in government. listen to the response to why the trumpet...

Memo debunking the claims of election fraud. yet, they didn't say a word. under oath, powell forced to admit that getting to the truth was never an objective. >> you had the ear of a number of conservative media outlets. why did you not ask to provide a statement correcting that the misstatement you had a recording? >> that didn't seem to be the material part of the inquiry. >> material part. the truth wasn't material? look, you will say, look, in politics, they all lie. that's not true. you could feel that way. i understand why you would. you don't have good reason to be cynical right now. ju...

That is why this litigation, the civil litigation you were talking about earlier on the show, this litigation over the committee's subpoenas, they're getting to the truth. people do pay attention to the truth. that truth inoculates against the virus of lies and hate that you are talking about. >> i'm with you. so much of the truth is about -- or people accepting it's true it's about who is telling them it. that's why i have hope for this. because it's about documents. you can't like or dislike documents. they say what they say. they mean what they say. hopefully, if you get paper, people will ...

>> the answer is, yes, it's already starting to uncover the truth. and chris, it will now be up to the d.c. circuit to prove me right or wrong. >> so you go through, you get the documents. you see that president trump was talking to people. there was some kind of knowledge. there was a semblance of suggestion that let's see what happens. he was too quiet for too long. then what? >> well, the thing that happens next is that, um, we see the devastating, um, consequences, um, of the insurrection. and i think we're going to get these additional documents, and i think they're going to have some ver...

Committee says 20 new subpoenas are going out, quote, soon. this as lawyers for the former president appeared in court to try to keep documents about the capitol riot secret. let's discuss with norm eisen. what's the answer? >> the answer is, yes, it's already starting to uncover the truth. chris, it now will be up to the d.c. circuit to prove me right or wrong. >> you go through. you get the documents. you see trump was talking to people. there was some kind of knowledge. there was a semblance of suggestion that let's see what happens. he was too quiet for too long. then what? >> well, the th...