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But no, it's still us versus them. it's still what he is giving us the argument he is giving us is that hey, at least he is not a democrat. he says he didn't do these things. he has told us the same things about vladimir putin. so he clearly believes vladimir putin and he believes roy moore just on their word alone. i'm not surprised, i'm just disappointed, julie. >> julie: he is supporting the republican in the race. not as if he hasn't in the past said if roy moore is guilty of what he is being accused of, he should step aside. but as we all know roy moore wasn't actually the president's fir...

>> laura: well, i guess, yes, let's hope that happens. but roy moore's future is going to depend on the voters in alabama and the gop's future is going to depend on their own legislative record which is not too hot with or without moore. check out this congressional approval rating. it's about 15%. only 29% of all americans have a positive view of the gop. i mean, donald trump is look good compared to those numbers. and it wasn't moore who dropped the ball on the obamacare repeal. and he didn't take long periods of time off out of session while they had work to do. he didn't fail to report enf...