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Was asking about wiretapping because i don't think that's what he wanted to talk about today. >> he definitely didn't want to talk about that today. he didn't want to answer her question but the second time he was asked, he did answer. what do you -- and, again, he went after the fake news. he said that we're not treating him well, the press isn't treating him well on the issue of health care when he did answer that question. what do you think of the state of the media right now and the coverage of this white house? >> really, we have a situation where the white house is running the way trump ...

Pride, southern heritage, and states right. my personal view, i think we've moved on from a symbol. but that doesn't mean we can't have a debate and a discussion about it. >> reporter: regardless of who it may offend. do you compromise civility in the defense of free speech? >> in some cases, i think that's acceptable because of the fact that it's proving a point about freedom of speech. and that we used to raise a society that was supposed to be -- have to be resilient emotionally. and now everyone is looking for their safe space. and i think that's a dangerous thing. >> reporter: one thing h...

This was the press secretary of the united states standing behind the podium and for about eight minutes reading news reports that he said were being ignored, as if all of them were facts. and this particular news report, again, just referred to a statement made by an analyst on fox news. there has been absolutely no verification of it, as there has been no verification from the fib, the cia or, as you well know, the two committees that the president asked to look into this, the house and senate intelligence committees. so, no backing down at all by the president. one more point i would make. ...

The intelligence community was tapping mike flynn's phones, then leaking it, then leaking the different conversations of the president. we have a problem in this country with the intelligence community targeting the people in office, in a way that we don't understand. and all the president's doing is saying, let's get a handle on it. and merkel wanted it too. i think it it's great. >> let's do it again, talk about health care next time. we had so much else to get to. joel, ed, thanks for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you. and we'll be right back. nosy neighbor with a keen sense of smell...

Who was on the air and made an allegation about the british. and the president didn't bat it down just there. he let it stand. >> reporter: he didn't bat it down. he doubled down. he doubled down in so many ways. let me unpack it a little bit. first of all with that comment that drew laughs to angela merkel, the clear indication was, you were tapped bit obama administration and i was tapped by the administration. again, drawing some laughs. absolutely not in any way back off from what happened today. think about how unprecedented this is. a british intelligence agency, which we generally don't...