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Of '11 he was indignant. he said you are greedy. i know this because people who gave the president a lot of money in '08 were shocked when he raised taxes and passed regulations. that's fine but understand what drive this is economy. the president wasn't open to listening to his allies. is he getting more open? does he understand this is not about everybody on wall street being greedy? this may be that he needs to listen more to old allies? >> i think the second part of that, there's no doubt the president was indignant. i'm not sure the second part is right. his attitude was that he was the g...

Is that they would be open to this as long as there was progress to an agreement or there was an agreement. the president wasn't open to just like another one-week, one week at a time cr, but he really wanted something that would be a stop-gap in order to finalize the details of an ultimate deal. what i can tell you here within the hour, i've been reaching out to sources here at the white house, and there is still a sense of optimism that a deal will get done and they're working out the details of an agreement. the ramifications of this deal or not getting a deal are huge for this white house,...

Bush is to be left out of the conversation but i don't think he will play the significant role the democrats had hoped. >> chris: steve? >> what matters most is what democrats are doing on the ground in individual districts and states. and i was in wisconsin this week in memononee falls. you know who didn't show up? tom barrett the democrat running for governor. he did a fundraiser where he did appear but it wasn't open to the press. you have democrats like tom barrett and donnelley in indiana who ran an ad taking a shot at the president and at nancy pelosi. that it seems to me tell uses more ...

Bush is to be left out of the conversation but i don't think he will play the significant role the democrats had hoped. >> chris: steve? >> what matters most is what democrats are doing on the ground in individual districts and states. and i was in wisconsin this week in memononee falls. you know who didn't show up? tom barrett the democrat running for governor. he did a fundraiser where he did appear but it wasn't open to the press. you have democrats like tom barrett and donnelley in indiana who ran an ad taking a shot at the president and at nancy pelosi. that it seems to me tell uses more ...

President bush gets to be left out of the conversation but i don't think he'll play the significant role the democrats had hoped. >> chris: steve? >> what matters most is what democrats are doing on the ground in individual districts and states and i was in wisconsin this week, for president obama's speech there, to an internally company and you know who didn't show up? tom barrett, the democrat running for governor, didn't want to be seen with the president and obama then did a fund-raiser for tom barrett, where he did appear but it wasn't open to the press and you have democrats like tom bar...