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Attorney general thornburg, as assistant attorney general of the criminal division and as fbi director, when you authorize a search warrant for a target of a criminal investigation, wasn't prosecution of that target the objective? >> i would say, no, that quite often in search warrants there are -- or affidavits in support of search warrants, there are occasions where a person will be mentioned as having culpability, but there will be no discussion or anticipation of prosecution. jon: so the justice department got a judge's okay to search our colleague james rosen's e-mails and phone records b...

A new concern today that it could be taking lawmakers' eyes off the investigation of another scandal, charges of political profiling at the irs. let's talk about it with a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist at "the hill." it says on our money, a.m. b., "in god we trust." what about government these days? what is this doing to trust in government? >> well, if you look at the combination of the investigation into the attack in benghazi, what was happening with unfair additional statute thinkization of conservative groups by the irs and then, of course, this sort of fishing expedition to...

So, again, the central premise that the programs are efficient is now being challenged by two democrats in the senate who have really led the charge on the surveillance issue, jenna. jenna: very interesting, and some good questions you're asking, catherine. we look forward to hearing any answers. >> reporter: see if we get an answer. jenna: we'll see. it's been an eventful week. >> reporter: i would not hold your breath. jenna: catherine, thank you. jon: she's got some of the best sources around. the scandals plaguing the white house all taking center stage now as lawmakers on the house judi...