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Same bucket. i don't think that's fair. >> jesse: there are similarities between both. conyers has four allegations against him. frank n photographic evidence, groping. similar. >> dana: when it comes to the law, sexual harassment, the women accusing al franken weren't working for him. is that the key distinction? >> kimberly: yeah, because it wasn't something taking place in a work environment or he was a superior to them or supervisor. it's a completely nonconsensual, unwarranted, inappropriate. that's what makes it so disturbing. people think they have free rein to behave in this way but it...