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What wasn't soundproof for those jurors. so i think sandusky was promised in the opening by the defense in their statement that he would take the witness stand. >> we have just a minute or so left together. you were a close personal friend of ray grigar. your friend didn't prosecute the case, your friend then disappeared, his computer was found, et cetera, et cetera. talk to me quickly about him. would he have declined for any reason to move forward against penn state. >> he feared no one as an nugs. he had many cases involving personalities at penn state. we used to kid him about it, as d.a.s...

Mrs. sandusky being the hail mary. that the testimony that was offered, that ghastly testimony on thursday that she was present, that she was upstairs. >> and the victim said at that point as if the room in the basement was soundproof. well, it wasn't soundproof to those jurors. so i think sandusky was promised in the opening by the defense in their statement he would take the witness stand. >> we have just a minute or so left together. you were a close personal friend of ray grecarr. people following the case know there was the '98 investigation. your friend didn't prosecute the case. he then...