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Seriously if it were a rumor or from an unnamed source. but this is an on the record plea from his wife. your view? >> she goes right to the heart of the matter when she says he wants to withdraw his plea because there's exculpatory material. that means material that would tend to establish that he's not guilty. but the rules surrounding this idea of a defendant who has already pled guilty withdrawing his plea is that courts only very rarely permit it. they'll permit it if a defendant's guilty plea wasn't voluntary, or if there's other -- some other justice and fairness component that was viol...

>> two points about that. the states that have the weakest gun laws tend to have the highest rates of gun crime though they may be lower in absolute numbers. >> tucker: that's not true. >> it is true. matt damon said when he was coordinating his movie, he said i've been to australian people are pretty happy. they have not just after a mass shooting, they not only banned assault weapons, they had the government buy them back and they have not had a mass shooting since. having to think -- >> tucker: they didn't buy them back, they confiscated them by force. you had no option, it wasn't voluntary...

>> two points about that. the states that have the weakest gun laws tend to have the highest rates of gun crime though they may be lower in absolute numbers. >> tucker: that's not true. >> it is true. matt damon said when he was coordinating his movie, he said i've been to australian people are pretty happy. they have not just after a mass shooting, they not only banned assault weapons, they had the government buy them back and they have not had a mass shooting since. having to think -- >> tucker: they didn't buy them back, they confiscated them by force. you had no option, it wasn't voluntary...

>> megyn, when hillary clinton made the comment that a gun buyback program was worth considering, she added she's not sure how it would be implemented in the u.s., but said, the australian government, as part of clamping down on automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. that was in 1996 when 946,000 guns were bought back and destroyed and it wasn't just for automatic weapons, it was for pump action shotguns and rifles and semiautomatic. and it wasn't voluntary, because the guns were registered. if you failed to join the buyback, you risked being thrown i...

Australia. trace? >> megyn, when hillary clinton made the comment that a gun buyback program was worth considering, she added she's not sure how it would be implemented in the u.s., but said, the australian government, as part of clamping down on automatic weapons, offered a good price for buying hundreds of thousands of guns. that was in 1996 when 946,000 guns were bought back and destroyed and it wasn't just for automatic weapons, it was for pump action shotguns and rifles and semiautomatic. and it wasn't voluntary, because the guns were registered. if you failed to join the buyback, you ris...