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Wiretapped at trump tower. maybe what happened is we were eve's dropping on foreigners and we incidentally collected and there was something malicious about that. there was no evidence of any malice, no backdoor surveillance. they moved on to get another theory and that is, well, names were improperly or politically unmasked. there has been no evidence of politics in unmasking so, you know, it has unfortunately consumed a lot of time without much purpose except i think to distract from our focus. and we for our part are determined not to lose focus. we're going to continue investigating the ru...

Surveillance video, we understand that might be taken inside there. they'll look at that as well. one question that they do believe they have answered and a question that many people were asking initially when they heard about this multiple shooting was this terrorism? the police say they have no evidence that this was terrorism, that this came from some sort of a fight and they don't know the details yet. and this investigation looks like it will be complicated and going to take a long time. scott newell there and thank you very much from cincinnati with the latest. let's go now back to pol...

This as a very serious leak, and i think journalist haves done that but haven't really heard sean spicer or anyone under the u.s. government publicly talk about how damming this particular cia leak is. >> and i'm glad you said that about the james rosen comment because sean spicer was not correct, and i have a quote saying recently he wasn't wiretapped his parents weren't wiretapped which is when you place a listening device on someone's phone. what do you think of this. >> i think they are in some ways trying to muddy the waters, i think a lot of questions the reporters had were about donald ...

He said donald trump wasn't wiretapped and the trump campaign was not wiretapped. but that is not the same as saying there were no intercepts of any kind that involved people around donald trump, and that seems to be the -- >> it left out the trump organization. >> left out, yeah, you know, people who, other people in the building of trump tower as well. exactly. >> but, if, for example, someone in the trump tower called the russian embassy, the russian embassy's lines are tapped as a matter of course. how does that turn into some scandal involving barack obama? >> if, nobody's saying it's a s...

Lying to congress about one of the largest surveillance programs in the history of this country. president obama's administration put journalists under surveillance like rosen at fox. so you know, i think it's a mistake to overplay there issue. >> i should point out that, and i wrote this down in the green room watching it that james clapper's denial was kind of a nondenial denial. he said that donald trump wasn't wiretapped. and at the trump campaign wasn't wiretapped but that is not the same assaying that there were no intercepts going on of any kind that involved people around donald trump....