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>> and alan, he never said that. >> that's what the implication is. >> jim started out by saying that these tactics were reprehensible. >> of course. >> i think we all agree on that. >> let's try to spread it around a little bit. >> and wait a minute. >> let's be sure that everybody who did it stops doing it. >> another element brought up by al new hart, usa today and his column op friday says there's an appetite for this kind of news, if there wasn't, that the product wouldn't be there. not only news of the world, but tabloids in the u.s. and tabloids all over. >> is that the course, what tac...

And iraq, and now, obama's in libya with nothing. >> you know what the press is really reluctant to do and i think they're going to have to do it at some point and said on the show, he they were cheerleaders up to the 2008 election, the guy who was going to part the waters and he was going to smooth out the crooked places, do all of these things, cure tooth decay and falling hair, everything else and realizing he's mortal just like any other president and when are they coming to their senses-- >> you keep say they go ear supporting this guy and they're not. >> well, then he they were wrong. >>...

Bad place to be. i don't know. what do you think? >> there is an underlying reality here. that is republicans will nominate someone. my hunch is palin is not going to run. romney has a better chance than she does. with unemployment going back up above 9% again and the clear, even the media are admitting that yes, we are headed toward a double dip. good news for some republican, for sure. >> the unemployment thing is something else we have to get to. austan goolsbee from the white house said yeah, pay no attention to numbers that came out yesterday because it's the six-month numbers you ought t...

The police and fire? >> that is a good -- [all talking at once]. >> did it so they could pick and choose. >> now you say collective bargaining has an impact on salary. >> no, i did not say that. that is not what i said. >> the corruption issue you mentioned, is the number one point -- >> wait the corruption issue is when the governor agrees to exempt unions that supported him from doing what he wanted to do to destroy the issues. >> the issue is over corruption, and you and the media missed that. >> i mentioned the corruption. >> it is not over that. it is over -- >> that is not -- >> we are g...

Woodward could find out about it. >> the sad thing is, there is obviously real news in the book like, hamid karzai, the leader of afghanistan is clinically manic depressive and we're asking american men and women to die for a man who has to take his meds and that i found shocking and media paid little attention. >> jon: the bbc's mark marredle called it, the book, a scathing portrait. that's pretty strong. >> we'll see what happens when it gets more coverage as it gets released in the weeks ahead. time for a break. first check out the new website and keep an eye on the big media stories in our...