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Save american lives. >> you employed stress techniques. a technique where the detainee would sit on the floor and raise his hands over his over his held. >> so he had to hold them up there forever and ever. >> it was to induce muscle fatigue. most people that work out do a lot more. >> reporter: you are saying this was going to gym. it's a little different. >> we sit around and torture doesn't work. it's been around for 5,000 years. most stuff doesn't working the way of the dodo like water beds and 8 tracks and things like that. my question to leslie stahl what would you use to get information...

Save american lives. >> you employed stress techniques. a technique where the detainee would sit on the floor and raise his hands over his over his held. >> so he had to hold them up there forever and ever. >> it was to induce muscle fatigue. most people that work out do a lot more. >> reporter: you are saying this was going to gym. it's a little different. >> we sit around and torture doesn't work. it's been around for 5,000 years. most stuff doesn't working the way of the dodo like water beds and 8 tracks and things like that. my question to leslie stahl what would you use to get information...

Save american lives. >> you employed stress techniques. a technique where the detainee would sit on the floor and raise his hands over his over his held. >> so he had to hold them up there forever and ever. >> it was to induce muscle fatigue. most people that work out do a lot more. >> reporter: you are saying this was going to gym. it's a little different. >> we sit around and torture doesn't work. it's been around for 5,000 years. most stuff doesn't working the way of the dodo like water beds and 8 tracks and things like that. my question to leslie stahl what would you use to get information...