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The biggest hurdle in katrina was the fema thing. they sent millions of pounds of ice to maine. anytime there is centralized planning in anything it looks bad. much better to do -- >> kimberly: trailers that weren't used. >> greg: the government should provide and protect for the private sector to respond. because where there is a buck, there is always a way. way >> bob: first of all, don't compare fema to katrina. that fema was with all due respect, dana, incompetent administration of fema. this time around -- wait a second. >> greg: don't shake your finger at me. >> bob: i won't. put it away...