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The whistle on facebook. francis, welcome to the show. we have been looking forward to talking to you for a very long time, because a lot of people on my show talked about you, they talked about how you were so brave, and how you sort of broke the seal on things that others had speculated were going on at these social media firms, but that you brought the insight knowledge on. so welcome to the show, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for inviting me. >> let's talk, first, about your decision to work for facebook. this was not obvious to, you in fact, it was something that you had resis...

Lighter. >> don't see it. >> is mark zuckerberg's position within the company in jeopardy? i think peter thiel is remaining on the board. >> peter thiel is still on the board, correct. i don't think there's kwconcern with mark zuckerberg losing his board. one, the board has been together a long time. they believe mark zuckerberg is the right person to lead the company. also, mark zuckerberg is the controlling member of the board. i believe he still controls some 60% of the board vote. there is nothing that happens at facebook without his final approval and permission. mark is not going anywher...

Some has been because of facebook. some has been because of what the president has been saying about amazon. some is trade war stuff. all week, these expectations have been competing with a concern of the trade war with china, announcing new tariffs yesterday or more than 100 u.s. products. if anyone is concerned, it should be voters who helped put trump in the white house in the first place. >> trump won eight of the top ten soybean producing states in the country. joining us is managing director at the asia society. larry kudlow actually was defending the idea of the tariffs earlier today. >...

Actually didn't delete it. facebook was operating for the last three years under the assumption the data had been deleted. once reports came out it was out there, they had to say, okay, let's figure out what the scope of this might be so we know where we're looking and what we're looking for. >> i understand you're saying, we only knew a week ago for the "new york times" report. >> did they know? >> facebook has known for years. >> well, facebook, again, had this written statement from cambridge analytica saying, we promise we deleted that data. the company was operating under the assumption t...

-- also turned it off. if you have someone's phone number, you can put it in and get, you know, a link to their profile, which pulls up public information. i certainly think that that -- it is reasonable to expect that if you had that setting turned on, that at some point in the last several years, um, someone has probably accessed your public information. >> here's what i want to happen. i want someone to ask mark zuckerberg, does he have that setting on? does sheryl shorthaandberg have setting on? he paused and said, well, most people have that on. if it is a risk, if people don't understand...