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Has told associates that the justice department will not cut the budget for special counsel robert mueller's investigation into election interferences said a person familiar with the matter. that's comforting. not cutting the budget. that's one of the ways mueller could be knee-capped. however, we have a different matt whitaker in previous job which was the television pundit, rather than -- >> i can see a scenario where jeff sessions is replaced with a recess appointment and that attorney general doesn't fire bob mueller but he reduces the budget so low that his investigation grinds to an -- a...

Tricks in his bag to move against it. this is one he resorts to. >> attorney general jeff sessions and his fate. the president continues to criticize him publicly but we've heard now that he is speaking with his top aides and personal lawyers about firing jeff sessions. what do we think his longevity? >> he's been doing that for a years. there isn't a change, since last july when he got a resignation letter from jeff sessions he then got back from jeff sessions because he was warned that this was going to be a disaster. firing jeff sessions has been a hot stove he has not wanted to touch and h...

Of that. >> it's interesting about these investigations, what we've seen is an underbelly in different type of lobbying that's gone on. there was work about whether he registered properly in the united states, exposing the way foreign money has come into washington. one of the ways mueller is looking at it is the way the uae, were they trying to move money into washington to try to impact things. so the moourm investigation -- obviously the cohen part of this is an outgrowth but it's an interesting development in the sense that this has nothing to do with russian collusion or obstruction of ju...

Mutual investigations? the inside scoop from betsy woodruff, from "the daily beast and and from the "political garden." first, plenty of reports he's on the outs, yet hanging on, going on npr today. what's the temperature on john kelly now? >> seems to be fairly static. no indication his firing could be eminent. for any white house official you're always on thin ice. this white house has seen so much turnover you could safely guess that way who would be the next to leave. kelly went on the offense going after mueller. picking up the team line there. of course, vice president pence told you he ...

His staff had to tell him. a number of other things. combative at times, uncertain at others and mystifying at other times with other questions for jeff sessions, the appearance. >> you've covered michael schmidt, interference with the election from the very beginning. where does to go from here? >> we have to see what comes of mueller. he's working his way through without officials. met with sean shpicer, reince priebus and will meet with others looking at the comey firing, the question how the white house responded to questions in july from the "new york times" about meetings that had gone o...