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Certainly don't want to be callus on the issue. >> when i say are we doing more harm than good when we-- >> we're way more. >> way more. >> we're doing way more harm than good. that's exactly what charles and i and we've all been talking about. it's devastating to the self-esteem and the sense of confidence and self-worth of the people who are unemployed. and some have them taking away the self-esteem and making them permanent wards of the state. this is a very, very bad idea. a much less more dignified way of life to work as a shoe salesman than to be unemployed and collecting unemployment be...

Cut, cost of living increases and materializing, and the clarion call is such that we have to do something about that. >> that's pretty bad. >> i don't have a read on the motive, neil, whether this is a payoff, whether it's well meaning. it's a bad idea. if you don't need the cost of living adjustment because the inflation is so low, you don't need the cost of living adjustment. the sad thing here is this is how we have public policy debated in this country with nasty ads that bring into all sorts of things that aren't currently being discussed, and we should discuss. i mean, those individual ...