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If it were a big c, a felony, you'd have to show an act of furtherance of that, a criminal act. i know you no he that, congresswoman. i'm just saying for the audience. i haven't seen any proof of that and there's no charge of that. i take your point. we collusion by definition. >> we don't know. mueller is not going to di dif willth everything. we have to see what is really here. there have been a number of things that criminal acts. does it rise to the level of impeachment? we don't know yet. we're going to get that information. for the first time the american people will get the cha ns to ac...

You'd have to show an act of furtherance of that, a criminal act. i know you no he that, congresswoman. i'm just saying for the audience. i haven't seen any proof of that and there's no charge of that. i take your point. we collusion by definition. >> we don't know. mueller is not going to dif you divulge everything in the indictment. we have to see what is really here. there have been a number of things that criminal acts. does it rise to the level of impeachment? we don't know yet. we're going to get that information. for the first time the american people will get the cha ns to -- chance. t...