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They are worried about the reputations of the ones accused but this decision in the epstein case is a big deal because it basically says hey, victims, you get to be part of the process and when you're not. >> right. >> something is going to happen. if in fact, we see a trial of epstein, which we could.ct we could see this non-prosecution agreement dissolve, that would be a big deal and that would show we have made progress. >> wait a second. explain how that would play out legally. >> so basically what happened is he didn't have a plea deal. he had a non-prosecution agreement. >> right. >> wha...