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>> chris, there are 607 people listed in the doctoral program currently at evms. how many could there have been in '84? how credible is a student run newspaper that nobody in the faculty knew was being published? that wasn't supervised? how many copies could there have been at that time? i'm just saying, the credibility of the or the accuracy of that news source, you want to talk about a fake yearbook, or the accuracy of that news source, the fact that he didn't purchase one. we don't know how many people have been mislabeled in a yearbook. you think about that. >> i give you that and a right ...

I'm not accusing you of hiding or anything like that. if you read this indictment plain text. not looking at it with any level of sophistication, the special counsel is clearly making the case that stone was trying to coordinate with people that he thought had the goods on hillary clinton ill gotten goods from wikileaks or whatever. that's coordination. that's a sign of coordination. that he was directed to find more of those things if he could. that would be coordination. not crimes. except if you lie about it which he did. i'm just saying, it seems that your report was much more generous tha...

Intellectual dishonesty of rick's last point. this is where it falters. the fact is donald trump offered for a pathway to citizenship for daca and those with tps after he took it away. it's unconstitutional and he was the one that took away their protections. >> that's not the bottom line. >> do not take away their protections and then give it back to us and say that is a deal. that's not a deal. that's not compromise. >> >> here's the reality that we'll see tomorrow night. he's going to have to pick a road to borrow from a much better mind. he has two ways to go tomorrow night and we'll pick ...

He was so horrified in seeing that picture, this is my take on it, that he felt compelled to apologize for whatever actions he may have had as a child, and we know that 25 is not 18. but anybody that's 45 and has a mortgage knows that 25 is not grown. >> i hear you. but you have to own it. you have to own it. that's the problem with an apology. i put the picture on the yearbook. he created mystery around it. >> right. no he did not -- i don't think he said he put the picture on the yearbook. i don't think that's what he said. >> i know, but how is that not the case? that's how it works. you gi...

But just in case, i'll give you a second prediction. when asked about this -- and at some point he will be -- he will likely deny that he knew anything about it, just like in the mueller probe. and it will be just as difficult to believe. he'll probably say, well, they lie, these workers. they lie. that's what they do. brown menace. but that won't be what the reporting shows. so when you're listening to him rail against the migrants and not those hiring, remember this and chalk it up to hypocrisy. and as far as that quality goes for politicians, saying one thing and doing another, well, this p...