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Their way up into the city. >> with all due respect. >> it's not what the president wants to try to stop. >> we have ten seconds. >> the pacts do not back up what you just said. the guns are being used in killing people day in, day out in chicago. they're not coming from a loophole at gun shows, official law enforcement, including the fbi, specifics say that is absolutely incorrect. there is illegal guns on the street. they have nothing to do with law abiding citizens. >> we don't track where the guns come from. that's a part of the problem, too. the president will talk about that. >> you got ...

Jobs. if you graduate with a major in greek philosophy you will struggle to find a job. >> let me ask you about immigration. you went you went forward with your immigration proposal and at the end of the day you said it didn't work, i tried. it's not going to work and last time i interviewed you you sa you regretted going forward and learned from the process. explain. >> i wasn't very >> i wasn't very popular. but here's the thing. it's a serious problem that has to be confronted. it does. we don't have -- we don't have the mechanisms in place to enforce some of our immigration laws. we don't ...

Border is secure every year on an ongoing basis. that's part of his trust/verify approach. and i think that actually has some legs. it offers the conservatives the ability to say look, we're not going to make the same mistake reagan made 30 years ago, something that comes down in the future and never get the border security. so we've got this constant relationship between making sure the borders are secure, be between the real border and the virtual border and the forms that are tied. >> e-verification is improving every year, the technology. i think we're going to be able to soon reach e-veri...

Green card there has to be enforcement mechanisms that are in place. it's not just the border it's workplace enforcement. it's tracking the entry and exit of visitor visas. 40 percent of illegal immigration undocumented people enter legally and over stayed their visas. we don't track where they lead. we don't track where we are. all of these things must happen before there is a pass to a green card. >> senator rubio says this plan offers people a chance to apply for citizenship the way they should have in the first place. a pretrial hearing continues for khalid shaikh mohammed the self pro f...