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Or i worked for tip o'neill. we felt -- we weren't always winning. it wasn't like in "west wing," we lost a lot. but there is that romance. we looked up to the boss. we really did. i looked up to obama as a journalist i looked up to obama. i don't mind saying so. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. listen, to me, bush looks like albert sweitzer now. >> did you see snl saturday night? will ferrell comes on. that was the whole joke, i wasn't so bad, and i was terrible, wasn't i? >> the point is it is horribly corrosive and damaging to us to have a president who we can't invest with any moral authority, who -- ...

Profound alarm and spurred to action. add to that the by now predictable habit of calling true things false and false things true and we have a recipe for disaster. george orwell warned the further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. are any of us who have spent time in public life and have endured news coverage we felt was jaded or unfair, but in our positions to employ even idle threats to use laws or regulations to stifle criticism is corrosive to our democratic institutions. simply put, it is the press's obligation to uncover the truth about power. it...

If you're not doing it for the right reasons and you're not passionate about it, think twice. and we thought, okay, we can definitely check boxes before we raised the first round and turned it into a company, we said we truly enjoy doing it. it's fun. creating an industry for something that was not there. the reason was never let's do it, flip it, and sell it. exactly the opposite. we felt, oh, my goodness, is that a job? it's so much fun. >> i like having contact with people. i like having conversations. that seems to come up over and over in my life. nothing frustrates people more than when ...

>> staying out of it? >> we are not taking a view and we have not chosen to get involved but this we felt, particularly since there was new information that we learned on friday night about the intent of russia, we thought this was a worthy -- this was a worthy effort for us to weigh in on. you know, the electoral college -- and i have learned a lot in recent weeks about it, it was intended that the electors deliberate. that's among the reasons why it happens a month later and alexander hamilton, looms so large in our life right now and his federal fas noted it's supposed to be a process and i...

That it's worthy for the public to know about and could be done in a responsible way. >> the podesta statement today in response to this note from these electors, it's only 10 of the 538, but they say they want an intel briefing before they cast their votes as electors a week from today and podesta came out and said the clinton campaign supports that. what's your take on it? >> so, i would just note that hillary clinton conceded the election and that has not changed but -- and there are a lot of activities happening around the electoral college, a lot of groups have self-formed to pursue lawsu...