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Believes deeply in campaign finance reform, has limited the amount of money he can take. he may be genuinely committed to not saying an unkind thing about hillary clinton. i don't know if in the long run he could possibly win a nomination by not draw that contrast. do we want to go back to sort of this old way of doing politic or do we want to try something new? but for the moment, i think the story is saturated enough that bernie sanders can just sort of let it spool out and continue to do his thing parallel to it. >> and she is still, jennifer jacobs, she is still defeating or leading, i sho...

>> we'll finish you off with this. if you were advising hillary clinton, what do you think is her biggest weakness in iowa she has to work through? >> i've got to tell you, i don't see any real weakness for hillary in iowa. we iowans are pampered. we're used to people coming to our homes, doors, things like that. so for better or worse kind of maybe expect that. so i think hillary, doing things that we did on my senate campaign, house campaign -- she knows how to do that really well. i'm telling you, she's so good at one on one or small groups. that's where she really shines. when she starts t...