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Cannot understand why any airline would fly over any hostile area and take the risk. >> now, the fact that others have followed up and abundance of caution, three carriers have avoided flights. the question is how long. it's more expensive in add fuel costs but that would be just a common sense response. >> you would think so, and again, we would have to look back at what happened after the malaysian crash in the ukraine. how long did it take before they went back to flying those again? how close are they to the hostile areas? but again, whether the pilots knew about this or didn't -- that's i...

Cut off is in terms of whether or not this incident with the ice breaker will be an existential challenger for the project. do we knee what would be a permissible amount of timer for repairs that would allow shell to go forward with the plan is this? >> i think a lot depends on how significant the damage is and how much repair work needs to be done. if it can be repaired on site it can be done quickly, be ready to go again. that's obviously what shell is hoping for. is this going to go to a dry dock for significant repairs? you're looking at two weeks to get down to a port in washington state ...

>> you are. >> we're done. let me ask you if we know anything about what caused the damage. i think of icebreakers asthma cho vessels. hard to believe this has a three-foot long hole in it. >> ke don't know what happened to cause it. as you said it is a meter long gash in the hull of the vessel. the path it took, the water was essentially deeper than the vessel. it could have been caused by scraping against another water hazard that wasn't charted. do you have a sense of what the cut off is in terms of whether or not this incident with the ice breaker will be an existential challenger for the ...

>> ke don't know what happened to cause it. as you said it is a meter long gash in the hull of the vessel. the path it took the water was essentially deeper than the vessel. it could have been caused by scraping against another water hazard that wasn't charted. do you have a sense of what the cut off is in terms of whether or not this incident with the ice breaker will be an existential challenger for the project. do we knee what would be a permissible amount of timer for repairs that would allow shell to goer forward with the plan is this. >> i think a lot depends on how significant the damag...

Frankly if you're dealing with war, it ought to be that way. i think the president, you know needs to send up a proceed. we knee to debate it and pass it. >> you know the president is going on the this week going into the state of union, pushing his agenda on jobs and economic pop you litch. is there anything room to at least get him a vote on any of this. the house as you know in the past as not put any of these imitems up to vote. >> i certainly don't have any problem with a vote on federal minimum wage but i think frankly the whole concept is pretty shaky. it costs a lot different in new yo...