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Frankly if you're dealing with war, it ought to be that way. i think the president, you know needs to send up a proceed. we knee to debate it and pass it. >> you know the president is going on the this week going into the state of union, pushing his agenda on jobs and economic pop you litch. is there anything room to at least get him a vote on any of this. the house as you know in the past as not put any of these imitems up to vote. >> i certainly don't have any problem with a vote on federal minimum wage but i think frankly the whole concept is pretty shaky. it costs a lot different in new yo...

Much." and the other thing he has to stand is is he's been the leader -- but the prime points of his campaign have been undermined at this point. one more thing, how long do you think this tax thing, karen, will have legs? how big a deal is the whole idea of pop you litch, which is really what the president hayes said he's going to make this. >> thanks to the occupy moment, the longer he doesn't present his tax returns, the bigger he'll have an issue. this is a man who doesn't -- the "rolling stone" had a great piece on his dad, who actually had a soul and convictions, and it undid him. now ...