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Other but in the end we got things done. >> it's a different climate now. i'm going to quickly ask you about 2016. do you think hillary clinton should get a serious primary challenge? >> i think she will get a primary challenge. >> are you done? are you done with presidential politics? >> i'm done. you get one shot. >> hillary wants two. >> well, there are others that have had more than one. look, i'm not in her camp, but i can't deny the fact that she's a formidable candidate. she may get a primary challenge, but i don't think that primary challenge right now -- >> should she? >> well -- >> g...

Brought about the 1995 shutdown and you were in the white house for us, just remind everybody what that shutdown was about and what the white house was trying to achieve. >> 1995, '96, i was in the campaign. i was sitting in a campaign office watching this and thinking, they must have a plan. there must be a reason why they think is good for them, the republicans. i'm waiting to see what it is. and when i see those polls that say newt's numbers, for example, do not go down, i will tell you that every commercial we ran, which showed newt gingrich and bob dole arm and arm, went down like this. n...

seriously. the national spelling bee champ wins with the word most of us have likely never used, maybe not even ever heard of. >> the answer to that is probably no, right? these kids are really bright nowadays. >> nothing surprises me anymore. every year they get smarter and smarter. good morning, everybody, welcome to "early start." >> we're really happy to have you here this morning. we are bringing you the news from a to z 5:00 a.m. here in the east. let's get started. up first, john edwards likely off the legal hook for good after a jury acquitted him of one count of campaign fin...

Suspect for material support of terrorism, that then is convicted of perjury. this is not what they're trying to claim is that khalid sheikh mohammed was that type of person was prosecuted at the time. no. and the terrorist that we're talking about were the ones that were picked up on the battlefield. and there's a big difference there. >> sure. dana, one more little snippet we'll play of the katie couric interview. here's the president defending reading the guy his miranda rights. >> what happened was he clammed up and after we had obtained actionable intelligence from him, that's when the f....

>> why wouldn't you run for president? >> i would. i would if i believed that is the right thing to do for our country and for the palin family, certainly. i would do so. >> so she left the -- she leaves the door open. if that's the right thing to do for the family. now, here's the thing, though, brian and gretchen, about the little snippet we ran, she took a shot at the guy that used a teleprompter. they looked at some of the close-up photographs of her hands during something and as you can see, right there, it says at the top she's written on her own hand, she wrote the word energy and then ...