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And she would have me go out and get her coffee and "the new york times" every morning, because of course she couldn't leave the apartment, and she would be by herself. for that -- however long it would take me, half an hour. i'd go out and come back and she would sit in the living room with her pen and she would circle names in "the new york times." and when i asked her what she was doing, she was adding names to their hit list, to the sla hit list. and the she didn't appear to be afraid. she was pretty intent on getting back, you know, on continuing on with the revolution. jack went back out...

What do you think? >> it's absurd. we're in complaints. if you're a dangerous person, you're looking at a free pass here. that's not the case. what will not vilify -- >> neil: you're also an accomplished lawyer. you know the law. i don't. i'm not a lawyer. i did look out this section 8 code. it does say that anyone assists an alien should reasonably know is illegally in the u.s. or who lacks employment authorization by transporting sheltering or assisting him or her to obtain employment, knowingly assists illegal aliens -- they're saying you have just broken the law. >> again, let me restate. ...

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