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Imperfections. what the tools show us, the government is using those tools to get into those cracks and get access to a device. it's not clear who, likely not americans, the c.i.a. that deals with foreign adversaries. the tools are out there and ready for among the c.i.a. or others with the u.s. intelligence. >> shepard: you talk about cracks and imperfections. these things are crack. when we started carrying them, 15 years ago, we weren't thinking, this is how the government can monitor everything we do, every single one of us forever. oh, the television, oh, the car that is now going to be c...

Great couple of days in d.c. and then we're 20 minutes from home and this happened. so it was an experience. >> after all of this and when you see this video once again, what do you make of it? >> well, we weren't thinking at the time that we're pretty lucky it didn't explode when we were standing next to it. we were one lane away from the truck. >> the main concern for all of us is that the truck driver is okay and i have heard he's speaking from hospital saying he has got burns on 25% of his b y body. so he's someone's father, someone's husband, he's got family. so i would i like to think so...

>> so in the final days that you had with john and through the birth of this process, what did he say to you about taking on this charge and about affording not only the dignity for your marriage but the dignity for his memory? >> well, this was something we really didn't speak about a great deal in his last. months. we talked about purely from the perspective of this was a promise that i had made to him. he had made to me. and that i would continue fighting that honor and respect him. and for us that's all it was. we were living up to our commitments to each other. we spent our time in his la...

Through your mind? i guess trying to figure out whether they were having ex crises when they were approaching it. and all said to a man, they said, you know what? we weren't thinking. we were 18 years old. we want ed to get on the beach. we wanted to get up the cliffs. we wanted to kill the germans, and we wanted to stay alive. that was it. it's amazing what they did. >> yes, it was, joe. and it is, indeed. we have a latter day collection of heroes who are unknown because less than 1% of us now serve. and that year in those pictures that we're looking at the entire country went to war with tho...