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The country. when you have half the argument that won't address that, we won't make progress. harris: do you think it's difficult to have that conversation with people who have different experiences with -- the policy is not even handed, they're having different experiences perhaps. i want to get your thoughts. harris: my thoughts? >> the gentleman behind you. we have a millennial in our presence. >> i have to agree with him. what we have to focus on is what the laws of the country are. if we do make it subjective, what the personal experiences, i mean, then we have to forget what the laws are...

When you have half the argument that won't address that, we won't make progress. harris: do you think it's difficult to have that conversation with people who have different experiences with -- the policy is not even handed, they're having different experiences perhaps. i want to get your thoughts. harris: my thoughts? >> the gentleman behind you. we have a millennial in our presence. >> i have to agree with him. what we have to focus on is what the laws of the country are. if we do make it subjective, what the personal experiences, i mean, then we have to forget what the laws are. i feel we n...

The truth is we've seen significant innovation in reforms and private compensation. i don't see why we shouldn't see that in public space. >> steve: performance related pay for politicians. people with that them to pay less but not more but if they deliver the results were not. >> i think it's doing a great job of letting people think hard about our democracy. 2016 taught us anything, it's a deep well discontent. unless we think creatively and stop shooting down every new provocative idea, we won't make progress. i applaud her for that. i would be open to experimenti experimenting. >> steve: w...

Also embedded is a clawback. a lack of performance reveals later on you can call back from the pensions of these politicians. frankly it might seem crazy but the truth is we've seen significant innovation in reforms and private compensation. i don't see why we shouldn't see that in public space. >> steve: performance related pay for politicians. people with that them to pay less but not more but if they deliver the results were not. >> i think it's doing a great job of letting people think hard about our democracy. 2016 taught us anything, it's a deep well discontent. unless we think creativel...