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One sentence. i mean this is the last question. you've written that you're well studied. you are a leader, a thought leader for all of us in this field. you have written a book, the price of inquality, which means you have a very thorough comprehension in your own mind of what the price is. know thag you are an expert in the price of inquality and what the implied price could be, would you rather pay that price or rather reduce inequality given the choice? >> that's a softball. clearly, we need to reduce inequality. >> pay it, man. >> the point of the book is that the argument of the right, of...

Even if you believe the lizard talk, the reality of the lack of food sh lack of jobs, lack of schools, massive wealth inquality, everybody's killing each other around the world, is evidence of the fact that whatever these yee has are saying, they're not doing it and that is going to revolve itself one way or the other. >> two things. one, politics is about manipulation. it's getting worse because what you're seeing is the people that have rigged the system can now spend whatever they want to protect what they have. so thus we're not having a conversation about how to solve these problems. we'r...

A new journey as we expand our efforts to confront economic inquality and beyond talk of course, captures that as we look to solve old problems new ways. we will meet a guest who dared take a personal pill gra midge of his own and find out what he learned along the way. aspirin, for pain?

And their ability to grant power to the financers they are trying to curry favor from. we are now joined by a man who does know what economic reform looks like. former chairman of president clinton's economic advisers and has a new book -- in stores now. do you think folks don't understand the danger of perpetuating and ignoring? i feel like we're on apollo 13 pretending like it's okay. >> i'm very much of the view that americans have not understood either the extent to which inquality has grown to the point where we are the most unequal of any advanced industrial countries. we are the country...

Things we sort of talk about. why is it that our leaders don't show more of that first step characteristic before they go with some plan to better do a ruthless evaluation of our choices, which seems to be a critical prerequisite. >> well, not only do they have to have a critical analysis of choices, they have to have the right diagnosis of what the the problems are and that's sometimes difficult. one of the problems of the united states is this persistent inquality. another quote related problem is the fact our society is going through a structural transformation and markets don't do that wel...