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And made massive cuts. this is not to make the program more sustainable. this is not to fund other government priorities. this is specifically for the purpose of giving a tax cut of about $800 million to the weltiest americans. there is no reason to make a wealth transfer from regular people to rich people. >> right now the bill doesn't have enough votes to pass. you know four republicans say they oppose the bill as is currently written. if the effort fails will you and fellow democrats work to work with republicans to approve obamacare? >> as long as they take repeal off the table we are will...

Trade. that's silly. that's just not going to happen. i'm not surprised that they are opposed to it, the other country, because they were the beneficiaries. if there was going to be billions and billions of wealth transfer from us to them, why wouldn't they be for it? they should be for it. if mr. trump makes a new deal, you can bet it won't be transferring american wealth outside. >> neil: do you know whether that came into the thinking here, secretary, how the rest of the world feels about us? it mattered a lot to them over there, obviously. but didn't seem a great deal with this president a...

Order of operations. you knew these things were going to happen. the tax bill, unclear. it seems like they're doing this because that's the thing that they can do. >> yeah, i don't know. but i mean you're right. they said health care, then tax reform, then infrastructure. health care has already failed, and it will fail if it doesn't fail next week, it will be a couple of weeks from now. i hope they take it back to the floor because i think it's going to be disastrous for them. but, you know, the thing is their infrastructure plan is not an infrastructure plan. it's another wealth transfer to ...

I think what's striking here too is do you have a sense of the order of operations here of what exactly the domestic legislative agenda is because i remember with obama in 2009 and different circumstances, larger majorities in both houses makes it easier to get things passed. but there's a very clear kind of order of operations. you knew these things were going to happen. the tax bill, unclear. it seems like they're doing this because that's the thing that they can do. >> yeah, i don't know. but i mean you're right. they said health care, then tax reform, then infrastructure. health care has a...

Huge federal bureaucracy that is going to increase the risk of america suffering through a debilitating insolvency and bankruptcy. >> do you think we need entitlement reform? >> no question. if nothing else, because we don't have the money. ifou kill the goose that lays the golden egg, nobody gets anything. that'sha happens when you have a great nation like the united states. you not only destroy the wealth that's been created by more than 200 years of labor by our insan ancestors, entitlements, you've got 87 different wealth transfer programs that cost us $800 billion a year. those have to be...